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Release date???

How was this released in 1988 and recorded in 1992? Something is not right here. 84.109.103.33 (talk) 09:05, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is another song with the same rhythm as Jump Around that I totally think that kicks @$$! if a Wikipedian can name it, send me a message about it. And also, mention it in the Jump Around article. --TheSamurai 03:12, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Madison, WI needs a better mention

The article mentions "Just as in Madison, during the song the entire student section jumps up and down," and that is the only reference to Camp Randall Stadium (U of Wisconsin, Madison, WI) where Jump Around was covertly started then later sanctioned in the mid-1990s, and has a noteworthy and controversial history there. There is a Wikipedia article on Camp Randall Stadium which could be linked.

ProfessorLudwigVonDrake (talk) 05:52, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Under Pressure?

The beat to this song sounds a lot like David Bowie's and Queen's Under Pressure to me. Is it a sample, and was this ever an issue as in the case of Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby? 4.238.179.84 (talk) 23:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Vanilla Ice ended up having to pay Queen for using the music from Under Pressure. Not sure how much, or whether he/they did so voluntarily or were required to. I'm guessing Kid Rock is paying the estate of Warren Zevon for using the music to Werewolves of London these days, too. Posthocergopropterhoc (talk) 04:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is not a sample of Under Pressure. The case never went to court because V. Ice obviously used Under Pressure without concent or license. He was ordered to pay an undisclosed (but likely very high) amount to Queen and David Bowie. 71.193.78.91 (talk) 23:18, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No Mention of Ice Cube's "Check Yo Self"?

I mean, considering House of Pain clearly ripped it off - even some of the lyrics are only slightly changed - you'd think there'd be some mention.--203.70.94.243 (talk) 09:02, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Ice Cube ripped off Cypress Hill's "Throw Your Set In The Air", so he's one to talk! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.37.139 (talk) 17:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

External Links:: Why do they reference Wisconsin Badgers football & Insane Clown Posse singles discography

Seems to be unrelated to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mostlegendary (talk • contribs) 07:47, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion of deletes

In the past few months, a large sections of this article have been deleted for various reasons, such as this large delete of all the Popular culture sections as trivia.[1]

Admittedly it was very long, and verbose, and was not as well sourced as it should be, but removing it entirely does not improve the article.
It leaves it unclear that the song has been used extensively in film and television. This should probably be mentioned in some way, but the long list of specific examples might have been unnecessary. For example from the many films listed it was not clear if the song was simply included on the soundtrack album and played in the background or of the song was prominently featured in the show, or was important in any other way.
It leaves it unclear that the song has been used extensively in sports, by many different teams. Again it didn't need a whole section, with twelve subsections, but it seems like it should be mentioned somewhere in the article, that the song was used in many different teams in many different sports (#8 of 25 in a list of top MLB walk-up songs[2]).
The examples of the song being used in advertising all seemed to be properly sourced. Maybe it only needed one sentence mentioning Bridgestone, State Farm, and Pringles, rather than a list explaining all three campaigns but it seemed unnecessary to delete properly sourced information without any discussion.

It might be notable that the song was used without license by the 2016 Trump campaign. I get that there a long list of musicians that politicians in general and Trump in particular have pissed off by flagrantly ignoring their copyright, but I think it was notable.[3] It was reported by Billboard (the one reference provided) and other music publications too, Rolling Stone[4] and NME[5], and was picked up by other publications such as BusinessInsider[6] TMZ[7] The AV Club[8] Entertainment Weekly[9] Newsday[10] which seems to meet the standard of WP:NOTABLE.

Another large delete was the list of Cover songs.[11] I see WP:COVERSONG but I find it difficult to believe none of the covers are notable, or worth mentioning somewhere in the article that Limp Bizkit regularly performed the song live, or that Busta Rhymes used the same sample in one of his songs (which make it not actually a cover, so it might have been in the wrong place but maybe it is still worth mentioning somewhere?).

Those deletes removed a whole lot of WP:GOODFAITH efforts to improve the article, so while I can understand the need to trim back some of the details I think maybe more was removed than was entirely necessary and that some of it could be salvaged, and the article would still be improved. -- 109.76.133.190 (talk) 16:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The first thing I would say is that Wikipedia works best when it is concise, giving the reader only the most important information. It was never intended to supply an exhaustive list of related events for each topic.

Good faith efforts to improve the article are not the same as actual improvements to the article.

WP:SONGCOVER is clear that the listed cover versions should be discussed in the literature as important or significant. We can't list songs just because they exist, for instance the version by Moonbootica, which is not remarkable in any way. Binksternet (talk) 17:09, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's really my point, I agree it should have been more concise and it got too long but the deletes in response went too far. On the one hand it was excessive to have 12 subsections about sports in an article that is supposed to be about a song, but on the other hand having no mention of it at all goes too far the other way. -- 109.76.133.190 (talk) 01:06, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]