Talk:Canaanite
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[edit]Amorite is known almost exclusively from glosses and names and name grammar and from these it was deduced that it was not only the one of the most important of the arche semitic languages but also most exempliary of THE achaic North Semitic language from which descended the Eblait, Akkadian, and Canaanite languages. Its inclusion here in the list of Canaanite languages is due to an erroneous identification of the historical Amorites with one of the "childern of Canaan" described in the Bible. The only tables on the internet repeating this error are those which have stolen their content from Wikipedia.
- Not precisely - according to Langues chamito-semitiques (D. Cohen, Paris 1985) and many other sources, Amorite is North-West Semitic. However, I agree that it is anachronistic to describe it as Canaanite. Mustafaa 08:22, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Ok brothers, please do your best to correct the relevant pages.
- I never had a stranger call me brother before but thanks! I am pretty sure Eblait is from Amorite and later Akkadian certainly went under Amorite influences but I will not pursue the area if there is doubt.
I think I've fixed the Canaanite list, but have a look at Amorite language and Amorite - the latter especially needs updating, being mostly from 1911... - Mustafaa 19:36, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I was pretty sure Phoenician & Punic belonged to South central semetic.
No - some ancient writers say they came from Arabia, but linguistically they're as Canaanite as anyone else. For quotes confirming that, see eg D. Cohen, cited in the Ammonite language and Edomite language articles, or the second tree in [1]. By the way, note that "El Amarna" listed there is not a language nor an ethnonym - "(The NW Semitic names and glosses appearing in the otherwise Akkadian el-Amarna documents are termed Canaanite, because those documents originate in or refer to places in what the Bible terms Canaan.)" - Mustafaa 03:46, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
What are the sources for phoenician?203.252.193.19 08:50, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
For the article, you mean? My lecture notes from university, Prof. Jongeling's site[2] and Prof. Krahmalkov[3]'s book "Phoenician-Punic Grammar", all three from memory, unfortunately, since I don't have them on me at the moment. - Mustafaa 18:14, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)