Talk:Aegukga
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The actual song
[edit]Can anyone upload the actual song of the national anthem, so people can click on it to listen? 69.144.184.243 07:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I have asked for rights for a midi file from http://david.national-anthems.net/ to be added to this entry. If rights are granted I will add it (or ask for help if I don't get it right) --Hastypete (talk) 18:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I have received an go-ahead from david.national-anthems.net to use the link http://david.national-anthems.net/kr.mid How do you add this properly? Anyone? --Hastypete (talk) 20:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Translation and Copyright
[edit]I think this (see page history) might have been the words of the Korean national anthem in Korean. Any translators out there? -- Heron
has the copyright thing been finally resolved yet? Appleby 01:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. See the article and the last external link and you will find that the widow of the composer of the melody has granted the copyright to the South Korean Government.--Jusjih 08:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Poetic Translation
[edit]I noticed that the "poetic translation" given here is not only poetic but singable. The meter fits with the melody, and each pair of lines (except the first one, oddly) rhymes. The current version doesn't though. Would it be possible to somehow work these restrictions back into the translation? -- Calcwatch 02:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
that's interesting, i thought it was weird there were two translations ... the meter's a bit awkward (nation, like a mount, beloved land), but the number of syllables fit. i wonder if it is a published work. it seems like more of an original creative work, not really appropriate for an encyclopedia.Appleby 05:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. Now that I think of it, I know I've come across an almost identical translation online years before it was posted on Wikipedia, so it may well be a published and copyrighted work. A quick search turned up this article from 1998 which gives nearly the same translation for the first two lines, except that they rhyme. But copyrighted or not, I can't think of any good reasons for including singable English lyrics to Aegukga either. -- Calcwatch 11:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
- Je suis d'accord aussi. For the English Translation, maybe we should create a direct translation column and an indirect(revised) translation column. Orthodoxy 00:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, this poetic translation appears to be by John T. Underwood (1857-1937, the typewriter guy). If you mess with the writing in a google search you'll find that it appears in a bunch of popular introductions of Korea and websites, though the exact original source text is never mentioned. It's a pretty fair bet this one is public domain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.190.11 (talk) 21:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- The English translation here was quite awkward. I have taken the considerable liberty of reworking it. I have not attempted to make it "fit" the melody, since it was not written to be sung in English. (I have translated "Eastern Sea" as "Sea of Japan" simply because that is the English name for that particular area of the Pacific, just as "English Channel" or "Persian Gulf" are areas of the Atlantic and Indian Oceans respectively. The Koreans are still perfectly free to call it the Eastern Sea.) Writtenright (talk) 15:05, 5 April 2010 (UTC)writtenright
- Changed mind; "Eastern Sea" it is. Writtenright (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)writtenright
- An editor has reverted "Eastern Sea" to "East Sea". I have reverted it yet once more, in this final, pleading attempt, to "Eastern Sea". The reason is that, since this is a national anthem, it should possess the beauty, dignity, and nobility of a national anthem. "East Sea" does not sound beautiful in English because of the cacaphonous "Sss-T-Sss" sound in its midst. Here is one example of an English lyric, by a famed poet known for the delicacy of his sensibility, that uses "Western Sea", not "West Sea", because it sounds better: "Sweet and low, sweet and low,/ Wind of the Western Sea,/ Low, low, breathe and blow,/ Wind of the Western Sea!" (Alfred, Lord Tennyson). Writtenright (talk) 19:50, 29 April 2010 (UTC)Writtenright
- So called, "Eastern Sea" is in the Moon.
- "동해", "East Sea", "東海" is a proper noun. (It is as same as "New York" is not a fresh York.)
- And written by "Eastern Sea" is just avoiding the problem. TO EVERYONE'S SORROW, it is the political issues, now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.95.32.94 (talk) 05:49, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- "East Sea" it is! Writtenright (talk) 20:34, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Writtenright
- And written by "Eastern Sea" is just avoiding the problem. TO EVERYONE'S SORROW, it is the political issues, now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.95.32.94 (talk) 05:49, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
하느님?
[edit]Isn't this supposed to be spelled 하나님? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.191.214.93 (talk) 09:58, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
actually, Both Hananim and Haneunim mean the God. Hananim (literally One God, that means something like Monotheistic God) is used by Protestants and Muslims and Haneunim (that means like Sky God, the guy in heaven) is used by Confucians, non-religionists, Roman Catholics etc.
This word is originally made by protestant and contained 'Hananim'. But the new-born Republic of Korea confirmed the word 'Haneunim' to erase the protestant colour.
Some fanastic protestants still sing as Hananim now. --KoreanDragon (talk) 19:36, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
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