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Pronounciation & Common Form of Altamash's Name

Is it meant to be Altamash or Iltutmish? Leo Africanus 13:19, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Again, a historical name never written in English by the individual himself. The original Turkish form, I guess, might be Iltutimish or something. But in South Asia, where this individual was the first independent Sultan and in where he he has historical significance, he is invariably referred in common parlance, as Altamash.—iFaqeer | Talk to me! 20:46, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

So he probably pronounced his name Iltutmish ;-) Leo Africanus 23:04, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Wouldn't bet on his pronouncing it only one way—just like a Muslim in the US or UK would be okay with being addressed by two or three pronounciations of his name, I think there might have been several in his time, too. It might be illustrative to look up documentation from his time.—iFaqeer | Talk to me! 00:03, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

In India he's called Iltutimish. deeptrivia (talk) 05:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that "Iltutimish" is used in India, but every Indian kid I know that is named after him is called "Altamash" by his family.— iFaqeer (talk to or email me) 19:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sultan or Sultana

The article's subject is known is Razia Sultana. Females were not called Sultan, which is a male title, but by Sultana, with the a suffix added. I propose moving it to Razia Sultana. --Ragib 16:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - in Delhi, she's typically referred to as Razia Sultana. --WarrenA 10:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From what I have read, yes, the feminine form is Sultana, and yes, she is often called Razia Sultana in India/South Asia. But in this case, her title was Sultan. That was kind of the point; she also took up male dress, especially in battle. I will find references.

But either way, we should acknowledge both usages, even if the article is still titled "Razia Sultana"

— iFaqeer (talk to or email me) 19:50, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Age

it says nearing the end of the text that both razia, and her husband we less that 30 years old when they died in battle; at the begining the article gives the span of her life as 1205 to 1240 : this makes her 35 years old when she died. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.64.97 (talk) 06:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The text looks like it was lifted entirely from here: http://www.storyofpakistan.com/person.asp?perid=P047 It needs to be rewritten to avoid plagerism. Also, can anyone give more info on her involvement in warfare? I'd like to add her to the Timeline of Women in Medieval warfare. Asarelah 17:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date of death

I've seen cites that place her death on either 13 October or 13 November 1240. Are either of these dates correct? -- JackofOz (talk) 02:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Dubious sentence sequestered

She was defeated at Katihal by Malik Vishal Goel and later he became her boyfriend which was the first every non-martial relation in history of mankind (Aluf/ Ulugh Khan). Both she and her husband were seized by Zamindars and assassinated.

I stared at that until I went dyslexic, and I still do not know what the sentence aimed to convey, so finally I excised it here. — MaxEnt 22:12, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Death reason

The text says Rajia "was killed by a group of Hindus"."

This is a Hinduphobic description.

Texts available on internet says Rajia was killed by Robbers. Other texts on internet state she was killed by Jats. Sumanloh (talk) 13:24, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]