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Errors in the summary of the featured article
Errors with "In the news"
- The German ruling coalition (Chancellor Olaf Scholz pictured) collapses over disagreements on economic policies.
The word "collapses" seems too strong as the linked article, 2024 German government crisis, does not use it. What it actually says is "...FDP effectively moved into the opposition, rendering the current coalition a two-party minority government." So, there's still a coalition but it has lost one of its members and so will continue as a minority government for now. Scholz is negotiating what happens next and it seems to be too soon to say exactly what that will be. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, I'm not even sure why this is in ITN given that the government is still very much in place. There will presumably be elections soon and we should post then.
- Also, when I first read this I thought it was Scholz himself who had collapsed. It's a poorly worded hook, given the presence of the photo caption in the middle, making it look like the Chancellor has had a mishap. — Amakuru (talk) 14:35, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Indeed, I'm not even sure why this is in ITN ...
: Met WP:ITNSIGNIF:
—Bagumba (talk) 05:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)It is highly subjective whether an event is considered significant enough, and ultimately each event should be discussed on its own merits
- FWIW, the first two sources at the ITNC nom were "Scholz sets stage for German snap election as government collapses" and "Germany’s Coalition Collapses, Leaving the Government Teetering".—Bagumba (talk) 19:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Those are news headlines which, per WP:HEADLINE, tend to use "exaggerations or sensationalized claims with the intention of attracting readers". And note that those examples are contradictory – one says the "government collapses" while the other says "government teetering". These are metaphors but these can be confusing when we are blurbing actual physical collapses too such as the recent canopy collapse. We should have a more precise description using the encyclopedic language of the article rather than the journalistic hyperbole of the news headlines. In this case, the finance minister was dismissed and his party left the governing coalition. A vote of confidence is now expected but hasn't been scheduled. So, the blurb might be:
- * German chancellor Olaf Scholz (pictured) dismisses his finance minister and the resulting resignations leave his coalition without a majority.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 09:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- This doesn't seem to a gross error that will get resolved here. Since it appears to be "major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates" (Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Suggesting_updates), the ITNC nom seems like the best venue to gain consensus.—Bagumba (talk) 10:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- FWIW, Ger. Wiki's ITN blurb translates as: "After the failure of the ... coalition, the FDP leaves the German federal government and as a result the cabinet of Chancellor Olaf Scholz is reshuffled." -- Sca (talk) 14:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- This doesn't seem to a gross error that will get resolved here. Since it appears to be "major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates" (Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Suggesting_updates), the ITNC nom seems like the best venue to gain consensus.—Bagumba (talk) 10:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Those are news headlines which, per WP:HEADLINE, tend to use "exaggerations or sensationalized claims with the intention of attracting readers". And note that those examples are contradictory – one says the "government collapses" while the other says "government teetering". These are metaphors but these can be confusing when we are blurbing actual physical collapses too such as the recent canopy collapse. We should have a more precise description using the encyclopedic language of the article rather than the journalistic hyperbole of the news headlines. In this case, the finance minister was dismissed and his party left the governing coalition. A vote of confidence is now expected but hasn't been scheduled. So, the blurb might be:
Errors in "Did you know ..."
- Re Teniky, not sure if this is an "error" per se, but "an enigmatic ancient site deep in Madagascar may have been built by Zoroastrians?" seems to be veering dangerously close to "giant lines in Peru may have been landing strips for ancient alien spacecraft?". I'm sure it will get lots of views but at what point do we draw the line about airing dubious hypotheses? Have opened a discussion at Talk:Teniky#Pseudoarchaeology?. I T B F 📢 18:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Errors in "On this day"
- 1932 – "... officially resumed fighting the Emu War after their prior withdrawal". - Emu war appeared as the bold link on November 2 (and nearly again on November 8). JennyOz (talk) 15:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- 1944 – "... sank the German battleship Tirpitz on the ninth attempt..." - I cannot find in either bolded article where Operation Catechism was the "ninth attempt"? And according to the unlinked List of Allied attacks on the German battleship Tirpitz there were many more than nine attempts. Swap piped to simply to 'during Operation Catechism '? JennyOz (talk) 15:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- 1956 – Suez Crisis: During an invasion of Rafah, Israeli soldiers shot and killed almost 111 Palestinian refugees and local inhabitants. - Not sure why "almost"? JennyOz (talk) 15:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Errors in the summary of the featured list
- We can add "(pictured)" after Kublai Khan in the blurb. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 09:12, 11 November 2024 (UTC)