Talk:Hawkeye Pierce
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Hawkeye did say he was married. Season 1 episode 23—- “Ceasefire” He admitted it several times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.27.111.226 (talk) 18:00, 6 March 2020 (UTC) Hawkeye says at the end of Season 1 episode 23—- “Ceasefire” that he gave up 3 nurses for an "Imaginary Wife and Kids". He was not actually married.
Franklin
[edit]Is this person related in any way to Benjamin Franklin??
- This 'person' is a fictional character, whose parents decided to name him after both Benjamin Franklin and Franklin Pierce -- MrItty 16:34, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- where does it say that his parents decided to name him after those two? Batman2005 04:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I seem to recall it being mentioned in one of the episodes. Dismas|(talk) 01:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure he was named after Benjamin Franklin, and his last name is Pierce. Perhaps the original novel's writer named the character the way you suggest, but obviously within the MASH universe (as in ours) there isn't much choice about one's last name (referring to "Franklin Pierce"). Statarius (talk) 09:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I seem to recall it being mentioned in one of the episodes. Dismas|(talk) 01:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- where does it say that his parents decided to name him after those two? Batman2005 04:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
He was named after his uncle, or maybe another family member, Benjamin Pierce. His middle name is obviously a reference to Benjamin Franklin. I don't know the episode, but it's mentioned in the first season.
Interestingly, Hawkeye had been married in the book and the film; at the beginning of the series, he was married as well, but references to his marriage were eventually dropped and it was made clear that he was single.
- This is not true, it was never stated in the television series he was married. In fact, in "The Army-Nacy Game," one of the earlist episodes, it was specifically stated he was not married and, though in the episode "Ceasefire" he tells several nurses he's married beileving the war is over, at the end of that episode he says that he gave up three nurses for "an imaginery wife and family." Still, he said he was engaged in the pilot episode.
In season 4, episode 9, “The Kids”, Hawkeye told BJ that had worked to put his wife through medical school. It could however be construed that he was making a wise crack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.248.75 (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
World War II
[edit]He aludes to the fact he may have been in World War II on several occassions but it is never confirmed? Was he. This goes for all chracters except Potter.
Someone listed him as being eligible for the WW II Victory Medal which implies he served, but it is never explicitly stated anywhere in the article. The references below are rather ambiguous and could just be taken as joking references. On the other hand, if as the books state he was 31 in 1954 then he would have been 18 when the US entered WWII and prime age to have served. However, if he served until the end of the war he would not have had time to attend college and medical school. He could have finished college first, enlisted/drafted in '45 and then went to medical school after serving briefly, but that seems unlikely. Given all of the evidence from the show and the multitude of opportunities to demonstrate some prior experience in the army it seems extremely unlikely he would have served previously. I mean, really, can you see any evidence in the character for him having had been exposed to army discipline without the cover of his position as a doctor to allow him to act the way he does?
In one of the early epsiodes Sometimes You Hear the Bullet Hawkeye friend for 15 years from the 4th Grade-implies that Hawkeye would have been 10/11 years old 1935/1936-born 1925/26 and old enough to be drafted in World War II.
Hawkeye ww2
[edit]He makes absolutely no allusions to being in WWII. What show have you been watching?
I can remember two specific times, First when Frank Burns says that his stock has gone up due to the war and that stocks always go up due to wars, he says "well I have been in two wars, where my Waffen SS Stocks?"
And secondly when Radar shows him his WWII comics, and he remebers singing "Der Furhers face", in his barracks.
- The epsiode where Hawkeye claims this is "second War" was 2/23
Was Hawkeye Pierce married ?
[edit]In the Movie and two times in the TV Show Peirce said he was ?--Brown Shoes22 15:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
In one of the TV episode 4/23 HAwkeye all but admits to having had a defacto common law relationship before the Korean War with a new nurse assigned to MASH
City and college
[edit]Per the script, which Donald Southerland essentially says: "HAWKEYE: We didn't have a chance, little Androscoggin College against the Big Green, but there was this blizzard and we held then nothing nothing till the last twenty seconds. Then this great passer of theirs let one go, snow and all..." Androscoggin is a fictional college, probably near the Androscoggin River in Maine, near Larder's Alma Mater.
His hometown, Crabapple Cove, Maine, is also fictional.
A previous poster said that Hawkeye and Trapper met during their residency in Boston, but the movie script/dialogue indicate an interception in the snow. --Robertkeller 15:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Father reading novel
[edit]The novel established that Pierce’s nickname of “Hawkeye” was given to him by his father. It comes from the novel The Last of the Mohicans, which Pierce initially claimed was the only book his father ever read to him. In the television series, it is the only book his father ever read to him.
- Er... what? Why the italics? Can someone who knows the show clarify this a bit? Rissa 10:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- Gladly. In the books, Hawkeye's father (Big Benjy Pierce) is said to have read only one book in his whole life. In the series it was implied that he had read more but that Last of the Mohicans was the only book he read to young Benjamin Franklin Pierce. Sound right? --Harlsbottom 12:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- Uhm, I have to say that if his father only read one book wouldnt it be his favourite then? I mean this is comedy right? --Mihsfbstadium 12:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Suspension of belief
[edit]- In one of the later seasons epsiodes {7/2} Hawkeye has a near nervous breakdown and storms into the PEace Talks to get them going again. In real life both Hawkeye and Potter would have been subject to Court martial--Hawkeye would have gotten a Section 8 discharge and Potter would have lost his rank as Colonel and would have been lucky to have gone home a Captain!
his dad a doctor
[edit]perhaps he needed to explain terms, because his dad wasn't a surgeon? Bouncehoper 02:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Name
[edit]Since Bejnamin Franklin Pierce is his actual name ("Hawkeye" is an informal one), perhaps the title of the article should be renamed? I'm in no hurry, so if there are any objections....Statarius (talk) 09:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- He's best known as Hawkeye, howver you've a point as we don't have Hotlips Houlihan. GoodDay (talk) 00:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Picture
[edit]Holy hell in a bag, who put that up? It looks like he's picking his nose with his thumb. Don't we have anything better??? Bouncehoper (talk) 08:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but that image is from the eponymous - and wholly classic episode "Hawkeye", which was essentially one long monologue that brilliantly showcased the character. --Statarius (talk) 08:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but the fact remains it's a terrible choice of picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.166.107 (talk) 05:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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Edit of 15:06, 26 January 2011
[edit]Sorry, I meant that "who" was the subject of "was", and not the direct object of "stated"; so it must take the form "who", not "whom".Kelisi (talk) 15:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)