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This article is written in British English with Oxford spelling (colour, realize, organization, analyse; note that -ize is used instead of -ise) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

List in individual cities

I think the list of nieghborhoods in individual cities needs to go. It is kinda pointless in that it does not tell you much more about what neighborhoods are. And as I showed with Seattle, it will just get out of hand eventually...

What is the general consesus on this?

tpahl 07:44, 17 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with you. Zap it. --Lukobe 17:21, 17 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

I am making this web page right now My name is clay and clint is sitting right next to me i live in meade ks and i am at the heat and energy module at phys. sci. -- 216.96.86.251

Hi clay, if you stick around, then you can create an account and put this (and more!) about you on a user page, like this one: Toby Bartels 23:15 29 May 2003 (UTC)

Capitalization question

PY: Is that really correct, to say "Block watch" with an uppercase "B" but a lowercase "W"? Just checking! -- Toby Bartels 00:30 30 May 2003 (UTC)

Cut and paste of page

Some idiot went and did a cut and paste of this article without consulting with anyone to have it moved. I have moved it back to its original location (unfortunately I had to do a cut and paste). I went and had a look through both the page histories for "Neighbourhood" and "Neighborhood" and found that the information belongs to the page titled "Neighbourhood" while a redirect belongs to the page titled "Neighborhood".

Please if anyone feels that this page should be moved, bring it up on the talk page first and don't do a cut and paste of the article information without discussing it. Doing a cut and paste of a page destroys its history and talk page discussions. If you feel that the page title is wrong, do it the proper way as per wiki policy for moving a page [1]. -- AxSkov 09:33, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Spelling

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

I often see the British spellings of words on Wikipedia - "neighbourhood," "colour," "realise," etc. And just curious - is Wikipedia based in the UK? Or are there a lot of British contributors? I hope so. It would just kind of turn my stomach if these are all Americans trying to sound worldly. =)

Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English, both American and Commonwealth spellings are allowed on Wikipedia (which is, incidentally, based in the U.S.). In cases like this one, where the term being defined is not specific to any particular English-speaking country, the rule of thumb is to follow the spelling of the first author. In this case, that was the Commonwealth spelling neighbourhood, so I have moved the article back there, and neighborhood is a redirect. Please do not move this page to neighborhood, and please do not ever move any pages by cut-and-paste. Thanks! Angr/talk 22:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to suggest that this page be moved back to the American spelling due to the apparent lack of any British context in this article. This seems like a reasonable request, which I will carry out unless there is a response here soon. _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐ 20:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:ENGVAR, this should not be moved away from a stable title to change to a different regional spelling. The topic is not one which only applies to North America, even if there isn't any specific information in the article related to places that use Commonwealth English. This is both the established and the original title. Dekimasu よ! 03:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've filed a WP:RM request, but you claim there that "neighborhoods are predominantly an American entity". Do you mean that as "recognized municipal division"? I'm not aware of widespread official recognition of "neighborhoods", but I could be wrong. In a general sense, of course, there are neighborhoods everywhere. Dekimasu よ! 03:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In short, I believe that when one thinks of a neighborhood, one thinks of the quintessential nest of American homes that has become connotative of the term. Thus, I must stick by my opinion, even if the word appears in multiple dialects. _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐ 05:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe. If "one" is American. Nests of African homes are just as quintessential, you know. -GTBacchus^(talk) 22:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If nothing else, neighbourhoods are as much part of Canadian life as neighborhoods are of American life, which would be enough to refute your claims even if the concept were peculiar to North America, which it isn't. --Stemonitis 07:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I must also oppose this proposed move, per ENGVAR. The idea that "neighborhoods" are unique to the United States is just mind-blowing. --Groggy Dice T | C 23:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- In the physical sense, I do not believe whatsoever that they are unique to the United States. However, in the grand scheme of it all, a neighborhood has come to become a more American concept. Plus, the article has nothing to do with "Neighbourhoods," just "Neighborhoods." _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐ 23:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - What's your evidence that "in the grand scheme of it all", neighborhoods are more American? What knowledge do you have of the "grand scheme of it all" as it looks from outside America, where most of the world's population lives? I'll wager that if you say the word "neighborhood" to an average non-American, they don't think of an American neighborhood first. -GTBacchus^(talk) 22:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the move to Neighborhood. Three reasons: Policy, commonsense, and my personal ethnic prejudices. Andrewa 04:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the move to Neighborhood. There is no excuse for bad spelling, once we start going down this road we will eventually have to rename it "the hood", but anyway another possible reason is that it might bring down property prices in my own neighbourhood if people thought the Americans were moving in. Excalibur 01:27, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It's not doing any harm spelt this way. Saying "neighborhood has come to become a more American concept", Rubbish!! – Axman (☏) 08:21, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 06:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neighborhoods before neighbors?

Maybe I have a weird perspictive, but it seems odd that neighborhoods should be defined before neighbors. The neighborhood exists because it's stuff shared between you and your neighbors, who if you don't know are just people who live near you (except for the lexically-defined 'next-door neighbor', which is more of a word than an analyseable phrase). Is there anyone else who agrees with me on that? Aussies and Brits (and whoever else is familiar with our ghastly shows), think of the tv show Neigbours. Felix the Cassowary 09:38, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Neighbor/neighborhood? I thought it was neighbour/neighbourhood for Aussies ;-) Mark 14:38, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Redirect

How come when I type in the Arcade Fire song "Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)" I get redirected here?

The character "#" can't be in article titles for technical reasons, so I think the search just looks at the "Neighborhood" part and that redirects here. At least, I think that's what happens. - JSmith60 02:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The same happened with me. I searched "Neighbourhood #3 (Power Out)" and was redirected here. Wouldn't it make more sense for me to be redirected here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhood_3_%28Power_Out%29? Yes, there's a # in the title. But there's also a "3 (Power Out)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.243.141 (talk) 02:00, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You were not "redirected" here. A redirect is a term with a particular meaning on Wikipedia (see link for explanation).

What I assume happened is that you just typed something into the quick-search field and hit return. This causes the default behavior to be used which is for you to be taken to the first matching entry. Instead, you should have looked at the possible matches that popped-up and determined that none of them were exactly what you wanted. The last line on the pop-up is to show you the general search results for the terms you used. From there you could either refine your search to get the result you desired, or click on the Neighbourhood (disambiguation) link which is the standard place to list alternate things people may be trying to find when they look for neihbourhood. The Neighbourhood (disambiguation) link is also at the top of the Neighbourhood article page. This is the normal way that Wikipedia handles this type of issue.

There is nothing any editor reading this page can do about changing the search function. This is the result of technical aspects of how Wikipedia works. Changing it would require access to technical portions of Wikipedia which are unavailable to editors.

Makyen (talk) 06:16, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions

The sociology section should be beefed up considerably (with references), and the "neighborhoods by region" section taken out (or perhaps made into a list with links). Michael E. Smith (talk) 01:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree with Michael, but would like to know his reasoning before I approve it. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 07:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Etimology

There is no section on etimology, why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.131.183.218 (talk) 17:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

Does anyone have a more appropriate photo? The current one better exemplifies a beach resort or city more than a "neighborhood"; not to mention, Copacabana is technically a borough. Mbinebri ^{talk ←} 01:53, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neighbour bullying

Neighbour bullying is a topic that needs to be covered IMO. --Penbat (talk) 11:07, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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"'Hood" listed at Redirects for discussion

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