Talk:Adobe Illustrator

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Technically, Illustrator CS5.5 isn't the same as CS5. The CS5.5 version was 15.1 with 15.1.1 being the highest possible update. That's confirmed here: http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb12-10.html

This 15.1.x build is missing from the main version history list in the article.

Part of the confusion probably comes from the fact that Adobe seems to have deleted references to this version from its own update history:

Low learning curve

The article says that the program has a "low learning curve". What's that, exactly? Originally I believe the learning curve showed how much you've learnt (on the vertical axis) versus time (on the horizontal). So a steep learning curve actually means you learn fast, and a flatter learning curve means you learn slower.

If you don't know what the curve shows, it probably sounds like a "steep learning curve" is more difficult than a "flat" one - steep hills are harder to climb, right? And nowadays that seems to be how it is usually used.

I'm not sure what a "low" learning curve would be - one where there just is not much to learn? - but I guess the idea was to say that "it is easy to learn". Humans n Here's how I would express that: "it is easy to learn".

The earliest Windows version didn't support color graphics (unlike the Macintosh version, which did). I found this out after reading a review of the first Windows version in a old computer magazine.

Would be nice to know which computer magazine and what issue you found this fact in. Jimj wpg (talk) 21:02, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Screenshot

Would someone please upload a screenshot that isn't advertising something? ¦ Reisio 21:25, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

can someone tell me wich programmes we see in the dock on the screenshot ?

From left to right: Finder, Dashboard, Safari, Mail.app, iChat AV, Address Book, Text Edit, Microsoft Word, (can't make this one out), (can't tell), Dictionary, (can't tell), Keynote, iCal, iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie HD, (can't tell), Photoshop, (can't tell), what's-it-called-Flash-editor, (can't tell), Garageband, Skype, BZFlag, (can't tell), Messenger for Mac, the Acid2 test?, (can't tell), Quicktime, (5 that I can't make out), Virtual PC?, XCode, (can't tell)m Terminal.app, (4 system utilities), and some Adobe app. That's it up to the bar. Is that good enough for you? By the way, any else is free to fill in what I forgot. [[User:Stalefries|Stale Fries [[User Talk:Stalefries|Taste Better]]]] 22:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

CJK integration

I remember that Illustrator 7 had separate US and "Japanese" versions. But CS has all the "Japanese" features (actually usable for all CJK, just that the terminology would need some time getting used to) already integrated.

Does anyone know when they started to make a Japanese version, and since which version the CJK functionality is integrated into the mainstream Illustrator product? —Wing 02:50, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Version History Plans

I'm thinking of adding another column to the version history table to include a brief list of the major features that first appeared in each version. I will need to do some double-checking first to make sure that I get it right. A lot of them I remember, since I worked on them, but it's been a long time, and I don't want to rely on just my memory. I have all the major Mac versions installed, but not the early Win versions.

By the way to whoever posted the comment about the earliest Windows version not supporting color graphics while the earliest Mac version purportedly did, that's not true. Neither Illustrator 1.0 nor Illustrator 1.1 supported color _displays_. They both supported the assignment of color attributes to objects, but color illustrations were previewed in black & white. Illustrator 88 was the first version to support color preview. Illustrator 88 and Illustrator 2 were under development concurrently, and the Windows magazine article was probably comparing 2.0, which did not preview color, with version 88. In most respects Illustrator 2 was a port of 1.1, but it did include support for spot color inks, clipping masks, and several other features which did not appear in 1.1.

In most respects the Windows version tended to lag behind the Mac version until the code bases were merged, but in one respect the Windows version was a pioneer: Illustrator 4 for Windows was the first version to allow editing in preview mode. The Mac did not have that capability until version 5.

By the way, thanks to whoever wrote the bulk of this article. I couldn't really tell from the edit history.

-- Teri Pettit 06:12, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Some info on the format ".ai" is welcome , are there opensource filters ?

I recall Illustrator 88 as being far more important than the version history currently suggests. In the UK, it was the version that was being sold in the important 1989-90 period when the NGA print union stopped 'blacking' layouts created by non-union labour, ie designers and journalists. These people rapidly started using inhouse Macs instead of outside typesetters, and if they chose Illustrator rather than Aldus FreeHand, then they'd have learned the 88 version first. As I recall illustrator 88 went through about 24 update revisions, sent out on floppy every month or so, before the more stabilised Illustrator 3 was launched. Simoneccles 00:04, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Not John Warnock in the Illustrator 1.1 Video?

I have the video that accompanied Adobe Illustrator 1.1 (aka Illustrator '88), apparently produced by Pedersen Associates in San Francisco. The host/narrator is clearly not John Warnock, unless he managed to become 20 years younger during production. I've digitized this video for my own amusement if anyone would like a frame or two for reference.

Is there another video out there or is this something I should go ahead and change? — Derekmw 01:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Loss of early version discussion

"Illustrator 1.1" was not "aka Illustrator 88", they are two completely different versions. The "Meet Adobe Illustrator" videotape introduced by John is dated 1987. Is that the one you have? There was a different video that came with Illustrator 88. Teri Pettit 01:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

On 10 Nov 2006 someone vandalized this page by replacing several of the history sections with profanity, and in removing the vandalism, rather than doing a revert, the fixer just removed the profanities, causing a probably unintentional deletion of the discussions of Illustrator 88, Illustrator 3, and versions 8 through 10. With those omissions, it now appears that version 2 immediately followed version 1.1, which is not true (88 came between them.) I would like to restore most of the sections that got accidentally removed. Any objections? Teri Pettit 02:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Teri, I think you should just go ahead and make the changes. I was thinking it might be nice to add lists of contributors to each version to this article and maybe splash screen art for each version as well. Comments? --Darin Tomack 22:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Illustrator cs3.png

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Resolved

Taken care of. =David^(talk)_(contribs) 05:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Why the CS3 (version 13) section has been removed?

I am curious why this section has been completely removed?

Version CS3 (13) This version of Adobe Illustrator was announced on March 27, 2007, and shipped on April 16.[1] The Mac version is a universal binary. New features include Live Color, which provides tools for creating color harmonies based on color theory, and the ability to dynamically apply colors to selected objects and shift the tone of an entire illustration at one time. Remapping controls are also provided for reducing the numbers of colors in an artwork. Also new are better integration with Flash, with named symbol instances and dynamic/static text; improved drawing tools and controls; faster runtime performance; an Eraser tool that works on vector objects; a Crop Area tool; and an improved Isolation Mode for groups and symbol definitions. [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.150.10.200 (talk) 22:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

What about some content??

This article seemingly consists solely of version histories and tech specs. That's interesting secondary information for the geeks perhaps, but it's pretty poor going for an encyclopaedia - what about some actual information? i.e. What is this program? What does it do? What can it create? Who uses it? What are its competitors? (just a few ideas). At the moment the only description on the page consists of the 14 words at the top. Surely someone can do better than this! (Unfortunately not me, because I know nothing about this program, especially after reading this article!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.193.139.78 (talk) 10:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

>> I second this comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.118.188.114 (talk) 16:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

While way after the fact - and seeing that no one has taken up the task of providing the suggested content - I would suggest that this article is entirely appropriate for an encyclopedia. The link in the first sentence for vector graphics takes one to all the info that this content question desires. An encyclopedic article is not meant to be a book on the subject. Illustrator is a vector graphics program (Q1), it creates vector graphics (Q2 & 3), who cares (Q4) and Q5 is answered in the article itself. I apologize for the snark, but the question comes from a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is primarily intended to do. THX1136 (talk) 01:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Anti-Aliasing and preview

What version allowed users to work in Preview mode? (I remember having to switch back and forth because it only allowed editing in wireframe mode). Also, what version introduced live anti-aliasing in preview mode? (not pixel preview, which came out later) --70.167.58.6 (talk) 23:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

CS 5 screenshot

Can anybody make a CS5 screenshot of Illustrator workspace and upload it locally? Image inserted by User:Srudes2 was about to be deleted at Commons under no Fair Use policy --Justass (talk) 21:46, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

i uploaded one and updated the article.... Umar1996 (talk) 13:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Removal of unsourced and third party material

I have removed a few sections of unsourced material that has been in this article since May 2010. This material reads as an advertisement, and included unsourced statements about where an "Illustrator Middle Eastern version" could purchased, a list of features it allegedly contains, and statements about it and another third party product "IndicPlus" as being less expensive and supporting various features without referencing any sources except the website advertising the product.

I challenge, and removed, this material for conflict to multiple points in WP:NPOV. Please do not put it back in without conforming to that and to WP:V and considering whether those third party products are important to the subject of this article, or whether they should have articles of their own which might be referenced in this one. Xblkx (talk) 05:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

How to put the same Screenshot here?

Hi, Please help me, I would like to put the same screenshot present in this article in the Adobe Illustrator article in Spanish but I don`t know how to do that because the license doesn`t leave me.

Excuse me my english XD --Brujodeflash (talk) 16:45, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Introduction, Citations, Assumptions, and FreeHand

Citations are severely missing in this article. If claims are made about Illustrator's features or history, especially in comparison to other vector applications, these need to be cited. Same problem with anecdotal or inferred references that are desperately needing a citation. For example, this sentence from the article has a citation warning: Aldus ported FreeHand to Windows but it was not the equal of Illustrator because version upgrades did not keep up with Adobe's releases. Unless this is proven, it must be deleted to make a better article.

Secondly, the opening Introduction could be expanded. As was said in the above topic, What about some content?? that poster offered these questions: What about some actual information? i.e. What is this program? What does it do? What can it create? Who uses it? Only two lines exist for the introduction and those mean nothing to the public reading this. It make Illustrators seem insignificant when it could be more compelling.

Thirdly, several assumptions are being made in the article. The article states that Corel "was never considered a professional level tool" yet no reason why or by whom. Also another assumption that "AI can create multiple artboards as one of CS4’s main additions, although still not equal to the true multiple page capability of Freehand" is not explained why. As mentioned before, citations would help.

Lastly, about FreeHand; Adobe's purchase of it was a significant (and controversial) event yet much is missing in this article or is miswritten. This includes the 1994 attempt to purchase it and these references (or lack thereof) should be fixed. FreeHand's features were a main component of enhancements in AI versions CS4 and CS5 as Adobe attempted to bridge the gap between users of the two applications. I recommend reviewing the [FreeHand] page for accuracy here. Also note the correct use of citations on the FreeHand page and its Introduction's content. --Maeric9 (talk) 20:55, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

CS6 was released. but no screenshot ?!

Some body help this!!! where's the Adobe Illustrator CS6 screenshot???? I'm getting bored without that screenshot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.122.61.175 (talk) 02:53, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I am a logo designer. Iam eassyly any logo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.30.47.133 (talk) 08:15, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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Stable release - macOS and Windows

On macOS, the latest version of Adobe Illustrator is 22.0.1.249

But the Wikipedia page states the current version is 22.0.1.253

I am assuming that 22.0.1.253 is the latest version of Illustrator for Windows, and that 22.0.1.249 is the latest version of Illustrator for macOS.

If this is correct, could someone please change this page to show both versions, not just the one for Windows?

Thanks --Gepree (talk) 09:07, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Add image to InfoBox

Could we add the image of a .ai file along with the logo and the screenshot in the InfoBox.

The proposed image is https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adobe_Illustrator_.AI_File_Icon.png Ananjanphotoshopcreations (talk) 17:00, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

version history

can you bring back the version history table please. i think it is very helpful and very educational. cheers.

(Version 7-10) unclear wording regarding CorelDRAW & FreeHand

“Corel did port CorelDRAW FreeHand still not available in Illustrator (higher scaling percentages, . . . etc.).” Looks like fragments of two statements were badly edited together and lost elements critical for determining what context-relevant points either was even meant to convey. (DRAW was ported from/to? FreeHand features not in Illustrator? What do those have to do with a paragraph about Mac/Windows parity of Illustrator?) Starling2001 (talk) 17:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)