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Track title correction

I'm correcting the information of the track title 'She Makes Me...' since the word Stilettos must be spelled as 'Stilettoes' (check the cover or AMG, I'm using the cover of the japanese minivynil tocp-67343) gilb_4 04:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilb 4 (talk • contribs)

superb

AS much as I love Queen it is POV saying superb guitar solo by Brian May on Brighton rock. Like all album articles its like a dam review Bill102 23:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rap-metal? Yeah, right

I am eliminating the following sentence regarding "Stone Cold Crazy":

An often underrated feature of the song is Mercury's rap-like delivery of the lyrics; 'Stone Cold Crazy' could arguably very well be the first example of rap-metal, which is saying much since rap itself was vitually [sic] non-existent in 1974.

This (unsourced) statement is a big stretch. First of all, it is doubtful that Mercury had ever heard of rap by 1972 (when the song was first performed). I'm not even sure the genre truly existed back then. Certainly it wasn't known to white people. Even its precursors, like funk, probably had little influence on the song.

By the same logic, you might as well argue that '80s thrash metal itself was "rap-like." Or, if you like, you could go back further and describe some of Bob Dylan's songs as examples of early rap. The fallacy here is in thinking that any music which de-emphasizes melody must automatically have some connection with rap. But rap was hardly the first music to do this; it's just one manifestation, and the rap-metal of the '90s used the lack of emphasis on melody in both genres as a means of fusing the two. marbeh raglaim 12:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, this hardly qualifies as rap...songs like Bob Dylan's "Talkin' WWIII Blues," or Bruce Dickinson's "Sacred Cowboys" feature a fast, almost spoken word delivery, but neither qualify as rap, with the Dylan being folk, and the Dickinson metal. 65.248.164.214 (talk) 16:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The way he sang it on the album version clearly sounds NOTHING like rap— he is SINGING the song. But when he performed it live, he sang it way faster and it sounded a lot more close to the style of rap (it doesn't matter that it wasn't intentionally rap, since it didn't exist by the definition we know it today back then), maybe the person who wrote that it was "rap-metal" only heard the live version. And "rap" isn't a music genre, it's "spoken or chanted rhyming lyrics with a strong rhythmic accompaniment". If you looked up the article on rap, you'd see that the art form predates hip-hop music by CENTURIES. The word has even been used in British English since the 16th century. It's a style, a technique, NOT A GENRE. You guys totally have rap confused with hip-hop. Of course Stone Cold Crazy has zero connection with hip-hop, but it's the style Freddie sings the song that is described as rap-like. And yes, I would consider Bob Dylan and some thrash metal as rap, because of the technique used to communicate the lyrics. Marbehraglaim, even you just said that rap is not exclusive to the genre most closely associated with it, so why would you assume any song that is not your definition of rap (when you really mean hip-hop) cannot utilize the technique of rapping? But in any case, I agree this song is not rap-metal. He's not rapping the song, and the genre of rap-metal didn't really emerge until the 90s with acts like Body Count, Rage Against The Machine, Cypress Hill, etc. which would later be responsible for acts like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and so on. I don't see Queen bearing any influence on any of those bands, even with a song like Stone Cold Crazy (although that isn't to say that it would be impossible), because rap-metal was born from rap-rock. You know, Run-DMC, Beastie Boys, acts that aren't at all influenced by Queen, or thrash metal for that matter.

Killer Queen

Killer Queen section says "They did the song without Brian May at first, leaving spaces for whenever he felt better" but this article says nothing about what Brian May's health problems were. Can someone clarify? 82.41.241.40 21:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brian had contracted and recovered from Hepatitis A or B. He collapsed onstage during the Queen II tour, according to my Queen fake book which lists all their tour dates. 65.248.164.214 (talk) 22:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jingle Jangle

What's a "jangle piano"? Drutt (talk) 19:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I must admit I'm not totally sure, but I do know that it is a certain variety of piano, and it is the kind heard at the beginning of Killer Queen. I've heard it's something like an upright piano (if it's not the same thing).Pippin the Mercury (talk) 01:26, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is a variant on, or alternative name for a tack piano, or some other kind of prepared piano? Tsuguya (talk) 07:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Studio and Recording Information

Is there more information about where the record was recorded and mixed? Any more studio information would be interesting to include. Obviously, there would be a separate section for this... and a lot of the information in the "Reception" section can be moved to a Recording section. Citizenkeith (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Citizenkeith, I, for one, wouldn't split the article into "recording" and "reception" (ending up in another row of song descriptions). A split, in some cases, would crack interesting creative contexts within a song. I think engineering and playing belong together, it's an interactive interdisciplinary process, and so should be the description of a song, to get the whole picture of it – song by song. There is not that much text anyway, just a few lines per song. So ... – That's my opinion at the moment. Cheers --Suaheli (talk) 01:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now I'm Here music video

Is the music video to "Now I'm Here" a mimed performance or a legitimate live performance with the studio version dubbed over it? Because I was watching the music video and a live performance from the Rainbow Theatre in 1974, respectively, and they look exactly the same. - Tim, 23 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.57.211 (talk) 16:08, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's the Rainbow Performance plus studio version. --(agnamaracs) (talk) 11:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flick of the wrist

What does this phrase mean? Best regards, --CopperKettle 07:21, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably a reference to magic? As in casting a spell? I would get that from watching "Sabrina" (the TV show about the teenage witch, not the movie with Audrey Hepburn), and she always flicks her wrist when casting a spell. But since that show didn't exist at the time that Freddie was alive, he would've probably been inspired by earlier films about witches (I Married a Witch, Bell, Book and Candle) or more believably, books (avid reader he was, reportedly). Also, when looking at the lyrics of the song itself, "Flick of the wrist and you're dead baby/Blow him a kiss and you're mad/Flick of the wrist/He'll eat your heart out", it seems to describe a person who uses his evil ways (magic) to trick you. The article for the song says it was probably inspired by their evil ex-manager, Norman Sheffield, and reading the lyrics in their entirety, it would make perfect sense. I think it was around that time of writing and recording the album that Queen discovered that they were being swindled by Norman. So this song is the precursor to Death On Two Legs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.139.29 (talk) 04:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not wanking, then? Tsuguya (talk) 07:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "Brighton Rock" field recording

The article states: "The fairground sounds... were contributed, uncredited, by Colin Macnab, a Glasgow-based sound recordist who was a friend of Rab Johnstone, a member of Queen's road crew."

I heard a completely different story: it was on a sound effects record sent to them by Elektra, their US label at the time. Sure enough, I actually found this record (one of Elektra's "Authentic Sound Effects" discs) among my father's collection. The same sample appeared on a Tim Buckley album in 1967. --(agnamaracs) (talk) 11:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. I have a CD copy of the same album, it's "Authentic Sound Effects Volume 3", and track 42 "Carnival Midway" is unmistakably the same sample, minus the whistled version of "Oh I Do Like to be Beside the Seaside" (which I believe was added in the studio afterwards). I don't know what the correct process would be for an accurate citation of this, though. I suspect just uploading it to Soundcloud or somewhere similar and linking it wouldn't be enough. Can anyone advise? Codeine (talk) 17:48, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The reference to Macnab is almost correct. A friend of Johnstone, he did supply some field recordings but never knew whether or not they were used somewhere in the mix. Roger Green (talk) 22:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glam rock? What??

Seriously, I don't see it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.33.59 (talk) 02:53, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this would help: "Sometimes misleadingly categorized as representing the rearguard of glam rock, Queen were, in their early years, neither more nor less than an accomplished and stylish mainstream rock band whose collective title, combined with Mercury's camp stage persona, denied them full recognition in the macho world to which their music belonged." Paul Fowles "A Concise History of Rock Music" Rodericksilly (talk) 10:44, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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SARM?

I'm confused. In the 'Recording' section the article says:

Unlike their earlier albums, Sheer Heart Attack was recorded at four different studios; though they still worked at Trident Studios, they began moving to AIR, Rockfield and Wessex Sound Studios. They left spaces on their songs for May to record his guitar and vocal parts upon return.^[1] Gary Langang, who was a tape operator on "Now I'm Here" and "Brighton Rock", recalled “When we finished work at Sarm, we’d meet them at a club called the Valbonne in Soho. That’s when they let their hair down.”^[2]

But Sarm studios aren't mentioned except in the tape operator's quote. Was he mistaken, or were parts of the album recorded there? And if they were, is that Sarm East Studios or Sarm West Studios?

JezGrove (talk) 23:04, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Bell, Max (July 12, 2017). "Sheer Heart Attack: A Killer Success For Queen". uDiscoverMusic. Retrieved January 10, 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
^ Queen: The Making of Sheer Heart Attack Loudersound. Everley, Dave. 8 November 2016. Retrieved 25 August 2018

[1] Bell, Max (July 12, 2017). "Sheer Heart Attack: A Killer Success For Queen". uDiscoverMusic. Retrieved January 10, 2019. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

[Loudersound-2] Queen: The Making of Sheer Heart Attack Loudersound. Everley, Dave. 8 November 2016. Retrieved 25 August 2018

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