Talk:White Day
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Also observed in China
[edit]I have just realized that my Chinese friends in the mainland are celebrating this day. One is super happy, the other super sad... So imma trying to make her happy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.73.234.4 (talk) 09:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Reversed in Korea?
[edit]In the Manga Sgt. Frog(based in Japan) it is also reversed, the holiday is shown in vol 5 or 4(forgot which >.<). Mrlego9 15:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
White Day is not a holiday in Japan. It is a normal working day (when not Sun./Sat.). Photojpn.org 06:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
- Likewise, St. Valentine's Day in the United States is a workday, but it's still considered a holiday. Michael Baptista 07:00, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
My Korean girlfriend tells me that White Day and Valentine's Day are reversed in Korea. She says that men given presents on V'day and women return the favor on White Day. Is Korea different? 206.80.1.253 21:26, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- If your girlfriend's statement is accurate, then yes, Korea is opposite to Japan in this respect, and the article should be corrected to reflect that. -- scwimbush 05:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Steak and Blowjob Day
[edit]I added the link to Steak and Blowjob Day because it is not just a holiday which happens on March 14, but it is clearly related to White Day in that they both fall on this day which happens to be one month after Valentine's Day and are a response to Valentine's Day. It seems to me that they represent different cultures' ways of responding to the events of February 14, and the contrast seemed illuminating to me. I'm putting it back in. Izzycat 13:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- It may be an interesting connection, but Steak and Blowjob Day is certainly not an important holiday. The "holiday" is basically a prank and as such tells us more about the DJ who created it and his fans that about American culture in general. Please explain to me how the antics of one American DJ "illuminate" White Day, an important holiday known to all Japanese people. Keeping in mind all the things that can still be written about White Day, this vague connection is not significant enough to merit inclusion in the article. I have removed the link once again. (JSLR 23:23, 9 February 2006 (UTC))
- I agree that the article should be linked, but no other mention of it should be in this article. It is relevent in the respects he mentioned, which I think is enough to warrent a link. Remember this isn't just an article about the Japanese it is also about culture and a forced holiday both of which are apparently also a part of Steak and Blowjob Day. If we only linked things that were 100% like the current article then there would be no linking at all.--Dustin Asby 23:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I know at least one couple that celebrates S&aBJ Day, so it's gaining some traction. The profane name of the holiday will result in its celebration being underreported. That doesn't make it inherently unworthy of a few bytes, or its relation to White Day unworthy of commentary. 64.81.85.33 23:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that the article should be linked, but no other mention of it should be in this article. It is relevent in the respects he mentioned, which I think is enough to warrent a link. Remember this isn't just an article about the Japanese it is also about culture and a forced holiday both of which are apparently also a part of Steak and Blowjob Day. If we only linked things that were 100% like the current article then there would be no linking at all.--Dustin Asby 23:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
'A day where Jackie shall win her man.'
[edit]This is obviously not a proper part of the article. However, might it stand until March 15th, as an act of sympathy? Corgi 06:26, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- No, Wikipedia is not a place for personal dedications, what is it even a reference to? Michael Baptista 06:33, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, I have no clue! I thought I'd question it before deleting it, that's all. Corgi 08:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Source of the name "White Day"
[edit]I was watching an evening tv show in Japan and they asked a question to the guests about the source of the name "White Day". They called some expert in who gave some association like: chocolate --> salt --> white --> White Day. Unfortunately, I don't know enough Japanese to fill in the gap, but the show seems to me like a "serious" show -- I don't think they were joking. If someone could verify this, that would be good...
- Perhaps the line of thinking is from pronunciation? Chocolate is "choko" [チョコ], salt is "shio" [白], and white is "shiro" [塩]. I don't really get the connection though. Also, the Japanese use the Janglish word for white, "howaito" [ホワイト], in White Day, which is completely different.--Dustin Asby 23:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- Nitpick - [塩] is "shio" (salt) and [白] is "shiro" (white). --Quietust 00:41, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
--I'm no expert on this, but it was told to me by a Japanese friend that the name just came from the colour of the marshmallows. Also, under the Holidays of Japan article, it says that it takes its name from the colour of sugar. (Anonymous)
"According to our survey"
[edit]Is this orginal research research? That's not allowed, right? Wikipedia:No original research128.243.220.42 11:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC) Well, I think it has more to do with whether the results of said survey are part of a published paper or other source. OR is someone saying something must be true because they read it somewhere, or they've seen it themselves, or someone they know told them, etc. But I think self-referencing is a different no-no. An author can't write about a subject and reference his own book, although he or she CAN write about a subject they are expert in and reference the same sources they use to write their own book, provided those are also published sources. I don't think referencing your own paper counts as "OR" though. If the survey was never published, then yes, it's OR. AnnaGoFast (talk) 06:09, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Catching on in America?
[edit]Realizing that there is a citation needed note next to that sentence, if there is no proof that White Day is catching on in America, shouldn't that sentence be removed? SailorAlphaCentauri 19:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I added the 'citation needed'. I'm an American, and I've never heard of this holiday in the United States, but I didn't want to remove it because perhaps I live a sheltered life and White Day is catching on in the USA. heh — Linnwood 19:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think that, at the moment, White Day is beginning to catch on in some places in America, but these are most likely very isolated incedents, and so may or may not deserve mention in the article. --Linktoreality 22:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I work on weekends in a large drugstore chain, and I'm sure that if it were catching on, they'd have put up White Day merchandise by now. It may be that expats here in the states are perhaps finding it easier to observe (I hesitate to say celebrate, as the whole gist of the day seems to boil down to spending money with no even faint rationale) the day here in the US due to the wider distribution of Japanese market/book/merchandise chains in areas with a sizable population of Japanese citizen expatriates. Pat Payne 23:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- The only people I've met in the US who celibrate it are international students, issei, and anime/general Japanese culture fans. Corperations certainly havn't yet grabbed this opportunity.--Dustin Asby 23:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I celebrated it in 2005. I was in New York, my girlfriend was in Las Vegas, and I hadn't gotten my act sufficiently together by February 10 to really do anything. "No no, honey, I haven't forgotten, I thought we could have a Japanese-style celebration this year" ♥ «Charles A. L.» 21:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think Japanese games coming over to the US is also helping. I knew about it due to anime, I'll admit, but some Japanese video games also have both Valentine's Day and White Day, which made it over to the US version. I know some editions of Harvest Moon have this, as well as others.24.10.10.195 21:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think that, at the moment, White Day is beginning to catch on in some places in America, but these are most likely very isolated incedents, and so may or may not deserve mention in the article. --Linktoreality 22:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Cloth
[edit]It is my understanding that the normal gift on White Day is made of cloth and that the name of the day derives from guys giving girls white cloth. White, especially in regards to cloth symbolizes purity. The most frequent things I have been told about are panties (by far the most frequent), hankercheifs, and cloth parasols. Also, most girls get either chocolate or candy (which are independent concepts in Japan) in addition to the cloth present, but it doesn't "count."--Dustin Asby 23:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
mixed up
[edit]the whole page is backwards, so guy is girl and, girl is guy, so wierd. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.115.234.191 (talk) 09:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC).
It's my understanding that, at least in Korea, Valentine's Day is when men are expected to get gifts for women, and White Day is when women return the favor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.225.208.143 (talk) 03:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
In South Korea Valentine's Day is when women give chocolate to the men, and on White Day men give candy to the women. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.81.97.216 (talk) 07:36, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
White Day in various countries
[edit]After doing some research, I could not find any mention of White Day being practiced in a western (i.e. European language speaking) nation. It seems credible that it is practiced in South Korea, too. I've also come across sites that claim it is also practiced in Taiwan and Hong Kong, however none of them detailed or credible enough to determine how widespread or noteworthy it is in those regions.—Tokek (talk) 15:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Origin
[edit]This article isn't clear on where the holiday actually comes from. Was it purely an invention of chocolate companies, or is it a "real" holiday that they simply pounced on and commercialized (like Valentine's Day)? --71.75.187.174 (talk) 00:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- The article description seems pretty clear to me: "It was started by the National Confectionery Industry Association". --DAJF (talk) 01:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Japanese Phrase
[edit]In the article, it reads "sanbai gaeshi". I'm not a native speaker, but I believe the phrase is incorrect, and should be "sanbai kaeshi". "Kaeru" is the root form of the verb to-return, "kaeshi" is the modified form for this situation. I am unable to comprehend a meaning for "gaeru" nor "gaeshi". Perhaps some native Japanese speaker can correct me on this one? 96.48.113.48 (talk)
- No, "sanbai gaeshi" is correct. While the verb form is "kaesu" (返す), "k" usually becomes "g" in compound nouns such as this. --DAJF (talk) 05:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
why is the article not about white day?
[edit]In the 'origin' section of the article, all I see is a paragraph devoted almost entirely to valentine's day. Shouldn't this article be about white day? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.221.142.171 (talk) 08:53, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Does Russia celebrate it?
[edit]As it's celebrated in various East Asian countries such as Japan, Korea and China, do Russians celebrate it too? Have they taken the custom of celebrating White Day from Chinese culture, especially now that Russia is getting closer to China and distancing itself from the West? In Europe, white day is almost unheard of, not many European countries celebrate it. 2.44.107.155 (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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